请问HN：为什么x84没有赶上苹果M系列？
嗨，
我每天使用的工作机器是我在发布日购买的 M1 Pro，这绝对是我做过的最佳科技购买之一，即使到现在，它仍然能轻松应对我所投入的任何任务。我的日常工作负载通常包括同时运行 Android 模拟器、iOS 模拟器和多个 Docker 容器，我从未听到风扇的声音，虽然电池续航稍微下降了一些，但仍然相当不错。
我想买一台新的个人笔记本电脑，正在 MacBook Air 和搭载 Linux 的 Framework 13 之间犹豫。我想尝试学习一些新东西，所以选择了 Framework，但我必须承认，我有点后悔。
M1 是在 2020 年发布的，而我购买的 Ryzen AI 340 是 AMD 最新的 2025 年芯片之一，因此 AMD 在开发上有五年的额外时间，我本期待它们在电池效率和热管理方面能够接近 M1。
Ryzen 使用的是 TSMC 的 N4P 工艺，相比之下，M1 使用的是较旧的 N5 工艺。我找到了一份 TSMC 的新闻稿，显示了新工艺在性能/效率上的提升：“与 N5 相比，N4P 为用户提供了 +11% 的性能提升或 22% 的功耗降低。此外，N4P 还可以为用户提供比 N5 高出 6% 的晶体管密度。”
我感到非常失望，使用 Framework 的感觉就像在使用一台老旧的基于 Intel 的 Mac。如果我在 Chrome 中打开太多标签页，我能感觉到笔记本底部变热，打开一个 YouTube 视频时，风扇经常会转起来。
为什么 AMD/Intel 还没有赶上？x86 架构难道无法与 ARM 架构相抗衡吗？我们什么时候能期待一款 x86 笔记本芯片在效率/热管理上能与 M1 相匹配？
公平地说，我还没有在 Framework 上尝试 Windows，可能是我的 Linux 设置效率不高。
祝好，
Stephen
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Hi,<p>My daily workhorse is a M1 Pro that I purchased on release date, It has been one of the best tech purchases I have made, even now it really deals with anything I throw at it. My daily work load is regularly having a Android emulator, iOS simulator and a number of Dockers containers running simultaneously and I never hear the fans, battery life has taken a bit of a hit but it is still very respectable.<p>I wanted a new personal laptop, and I was debating between a MacBook Air or going for a Framework 13 with Linux. I wanted to lean into learning something new so went with the Framework and I must admit I am regretting it a bit.<p>The M1 was released back in 2020 and I bought the Ryzen AI 340 which is one of the newest 2025 chips from AMD, so AMD has 5 years of extra development and I had expected them to get close to the M1 in terms of battery efficiency and thermals.<p>The Ryzen is using a TSMC N4P process compared to the older N5 process, I managed to find a TSMC press release showing the performance/efficiency gains from the newer process: “When compared to N5, N4P offers users a reported +11% performance boost or a 22% reduction in power consumption. Beyond that, N4P can offer users a 6% increase in transistor density over N5”<p>I am sorely disappointed, using the Framework feels like using an older Intel based Mac. If I open too many tabs in Chrome I can feel the bottom of the laptop getting hot, open a YouTube video and the fans will often spin up.<p>Why haven’t AMD/Intel been able to catch up? Is x86 just not able to keep up with the ARM architecture? When can we expect a x86 laptop chip to match the M1 in efficiency/thermals?!<p>To be fair I haven’t tried Windows on the Framework yet it might be my Linux setup being inefficient.<p>Cheers,
Stephen