请问HN:通用人工智能的标准有多高?哪些问题是“AGI完全”的?

2作者: adinhitlore3 个月前原帖
我想“AGI”和“ASI”背后的命名仍然存在争议。我刚刚观看了Sundar Pichai在Lex Fridman节目中的采访,他巧妙地几乎嘲讽了这个术语,基本上将其描述为一种最近的发明,是一种新词,主要用于表示“我们的人工智能很快将变得非常先进”。 尽管如此,我的问题是:截至2025年9月,哪些问题是即使是最优秀的人工智能也无法解决的?我能想到很多,尽管由于它们目前尚未解决,因此无论对任何人或人类工具来说,它们都可能是不可解决的。 以下是一些随机排列的问题,纯粹是“随口而出”: 1. P ≠ NP; 2. 广义相对论与量子力学的统一; 3. 证明/反驳黎曼假设; 4. “孤独跑者猜想”的证明/反驳; 5. 治愈大多数情况下有效的四期癌症的方法; 6. 更低温度的聚变; 7. 无反应驱动的证明/反驳; 8. 证明/反驳“量子优越性”; 9. 在量子计算机上安装用户友好的主要操作系统; 10. 人形机器人在比赛中击败UFC战斗员; 11. 人形机器人在跑酷方面表现优于Storror; 12. 人工智能设计出比变压器快几个数量级的文本生成/媒体生成算法,且不牺牲质量(或偏差仅5-10%); 13. 人工智能建造自我复制的机器人,在火星上建立城市(这个想法我大约一个月前从Grok那里偷来的...); 14. 发现制作便宜体外肉的方法; 15. 合成未命名元素; 16. 对量子力学的正确解释; 17. 解决“时间问题”; 18. 制造胶球; 19. 证明/拒绝Collatz猜想; 还有很多……在你看来,哪些是类似AGI的问题? 我知道我上面列出的问题表述并不完美,例如“便宜”的体外肉是一个开放的解释,而100万度的聚变仍然是大约“两个数量级”更冷,但对于主流聚变的影响可能是无用的。不过,毕竟这是一个互联网论坛,而不是博士论文,尽管这些问题的表述很糟糕,但如果能够解决,将会在人工智能或其他领域引发巨大的范式转变,某些人将会做得非常正确,甚至超越Demis Hassabis,或者爱因斯坦、达芬奇、特斯拉、阿达等人。 我很好奇许多人希望从人工智能中看到什么,鉴于这个论坛的智商很高,我想不会出现像“照片级真实的第一人称射击游戏”或“听起来像Shelby的特斯拉”或“更美味的汉堡”、“酷炫的喷气背包”、“完全沉浸式虚拟现实,可以采访Andrew Tate”、“敞篷波音”等等这种低水平的回答。
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I guess the nomenclature behind &quot;AGI&quot; and &quot;ASI&quot; is still debatable and i just watched an interview with Sundar Pichai (on Lex Fridman) where he brilliantly almost mocked the term, essentially describing it as a recent invention, neologism mostly used to mean &quot;our ai will soon be very advanced&quot;.<p>Even so my question is: what problems as of 2025 September are impossible for even the best AI? I can think of many, though since they are currently unsolved, they may as well be impossible regardless for any human or human tool anyway:<p>*here are some problems ordered randomly, &quot;on top of my head&quot;:<p>1. P =|!= NP; 2.Unification of gen. relativity+quantum mechanics; 3. prove&#x2F;disprove the Riemann hypothesis; 4. &quot;lonely runner conjecture&quot; proof&#x2F;disproof; 5. cure for 4th stage cancer that works most of the time; 6. orders of magnitudes colder fusion; 7. reactionless drive - proof&#x2F;disproof; 8. prove(show)&#x2F;disprove &#x27;quantum supremacy&#x27;; 9. install user-friendly main purpose OS on quantum computer; 10. humanoid defeats ufc fighter in a fight; 11. humanoid performs parkour better than Storror; 12. AI designs orders of magnitude faster textgen&#x2F;mediagen algorithms than transformers without sacrificing quality (or 5-10% worse deviation); 13. AI builds self-replicating robots that build city on Mars (i stole this idea from Grok month ago or so...); 14. discovers way to make cheap invitro meat; 15. synthesizes ununennium; 16. correct interpretation of quantum mechanics; 17. solve the &#x27;problem of time&#x27;; 18. make glueballs; 19. prove&#x2F;reject the Collatz conjecture;<p>and many more...what in your opinion are agi-like problems?<p>I know my phrasing of the problems above isn&#x27;t perfect, for example &quot;cheap&quot; as in invitro meat is open to interpretation and 1 million degrees fusion is still ~2 &#x27;orders of magnitude&#x27; colder but likely useless to have impact on mainstream fusion etc. But it&#x27;s an internet forum after all not Ph.d thesis, regardless any of the problems if solved despite the horrible wording will signal an immense paradigma shift in AI or whatever it &quot;signals&quot; someone&#x2F;some people will be doing something very right surpassing even Demis Hassabis, or even Einstein, Da Vinci, Tesla, Ada and the likes.<p>I&#x27;m curious what many people want to see from AI, since the IQ of this forum is high, I guess it won&#x27;t be a beavis-and-butthead level of answers like &quot;photorealistic fps&quot; or &quot;teslas that sound like shelby&quot; or &quot;tastier burgers&quot;, &quot;badass jetpacks&quot; , &quot;fully immersive VR where you can interview andrew tate&quot;, &quot;cabrio boeing&quot;, etc etc.