启用高级数据保护的 iCloud 不会删除您的文件。

4作者: mnls7 天前原帖
我发现了一些关于iCloud的高级数据保护(ADP)的问题,这是苹果并未披露的:被删除的文件实际上从他们的服务器上并没有被真正移除。 测试: 我有一个5 Mbit/秒的上传连接。我将6GB的个人文件(音乐、视频、照片)复制到iCloud Drive。它们在15分钟内“上传”完成——这在我的带宽下是不可能的。这些文件早在很久以前就已经上传并被删除了。 为了验证,我检查了活动监视器:自启动以来,仅发送了3.42GB的数据,包括网页浏览。6GB的上传根本没有发生。 确认测试: 创建了一个包含随机数据的100MB文件:dd if=/dev/urandom of=randomfile.dat bs=1m count=100 上传到iCloud:花费了2-3分钟,活动监视器显示发送了122MB(正确) 从iCloud Drive中删除该文件 从“最近删除”中“永久删除”,并清空数据恢复中的任何文件。 重新上传相同的文件:在1秒内完成 活动监视器:几乎没有数据发送 苹果即使在“永久删除”后也保留了加密块。 一个月的测试(正在进行中): 我将保留这个随机文件,并计划在30天后尝试重新上传,以查看苹果是否会按任何时间表清除数据,还是无限期保留。 为什么这很重要: ADP被宣传为让用户对其数据拥有独占控制权 “删除”和“永久删除”选项暗示数据会被移除 上传进度条显示虚假的“上传”状态以进行去重操作 用户无法验证苹果保留了哪些数据。 要尝试永久删除,必须禁用ADP的网络访问。 不清楚的是: 这是否适用于健康数据、密码和其他受ADP保护的内容? 苹果会保留“已删除”的加密块多久? 用户是否能真正删除他们的数据? 我并不是说加密技术很弱——可能没问题。但苹果在数据保留和ADP去重方面缺乏透明度令人担忧。“永久删除”应该意味着永久删除。 还有其他人注意到这种行为吗?在完成30天的保留测试后,我会更新这篇文章。
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I discovered something concerning about iCloud&#x27;s Advanced Data Protection (ADP) that Apple doesn&#x27;t disclose: deleted files are never actually removed from their servers. The Test: I have a 5 Mbit&#x2F;sec upload connection. I copied 6GB of my personal files (music, videos, photos) to iCloud Drive. They &quot;uploaded&quot; in 15 minutes— which is impossible at my bandwidth. The files were previously uploaded a long ago and deleted since. To verify, I checked Activity Monitor: only 3.42GB total data sent since boot, including web browsing. The 6GB upload never happened.<p>Confirmation Test: Created a 100MB file with random data: dd if=&#x2F;dev&#x2F;urandom of=randomfile.dat bs=1m count=100 Uploaded to iCloud: took 2-3 minutes, Activity Monitor showed 122MB sent (correct) Deleted the file from iCloud Drive &quot;Permanently deleted&quot; from Recently Deleted and emptied any files from Data recovery. Re-uploaded the identical file: completed in 1 second Activity Monitor: essentially zero data sent<p>Apple kept the encrypted blocks even after &quot;permanent deletion.&quot;<p>The month-long test (in progress): I&#x27;m keeping the random file and will attempt to re-upload it after 30+ days to see if Apple purges data on any schedule, or retains it indefinitely.<p>Why this matters: ADP is marketed as giving users exclusive control over their data &quot;Delete&quot; and &quot;Permanent Delete&quot; options imply data removal Upload progress bars show fake &quot;uploading&quot; status for deduplication operations Users cannot verify what data Apple retains. To attempt permanent deletion, you must disable ADP web access<p>What&#x27;s unclear: Does this apply to Health data, Passwords, and other ADP-protected content? How long does Apple retain &quot;deleted&quot; encrypted blocks? Can users ever truly remove their data?<p>I&#x27;m not claiming the encryption is weak—it&#x27;s probably fine. But Apple&#x27;s lack of transparency about data retention and deduplication with ADP is concerning. &quot;Permanent delete&quot; should mean permanent delete. Has anyone else noticed this behavior? I&#x27;ll update this post after completing the 30-day retention test.