请问HN:在大语言模型时代,我们如何建立一个以人为本的新在线社区?
我基本上是在网上长大的,结识了一些终生的朋友。我珍视网络上能够建立的国际社区的真实潜力,真的没有什么能与之相比。
最近我对人工智能感到非常苦恼。我对它渗透到生活的方方面面感到愤怒。不仅仅是我的工作和爱好,它似乎还在许多在线社区(包括这个社区)中悄然蔓延。
我一直在思考,我们如何才能重新建立曾经在线上拥有的信任。是的,机器人问题由来已久,但这远远超出了垃圾信息的范畴。大型语言模型(LLMs)已经在大规模上破坏了网络公共空间,可能再也无法回头。老实说,这让我感到非常苦涩。
然而,这并不意味着我们不能找到一种新的方式,某种程度上能够抵御大型语言模型的影响。我不确定这具体会是什么样子,但我很想知道其他人有什么想法。
我的愿望清单包括以下几点:
* 能够抵御大型语言模型“渗透”,用一个更好的词来形容。我们应该能够相对自信地认为对方是真实的人类。
* 不需要放弃所有的匿名性。可能需要某种身份认证,但用户之间的互动至少应该是可以伪匿名的。
* 理想情况下,也能抵御大型语言模型的抓取。我个人觉得现在公开分享工作,让大型语言模型获取这些内容的想法令人沮丧。
我知道这要求很高,可能不太现实。不过,我很好奇HN对此可能性的看法。
编辑:这部分灵感来自于最近在这里讨论的版主帖子:https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47340079
我尊重HN的版主团队愿意将此留给荣誉体系,但我认为在未来,我们需要一些严肃的想法来严格防止这种不良行为,而不仅仅是希望人们能友好相处。
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