请问HN:在大语言模型时代,我们如何建立一个以人为本的新在线社区?

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我基本上是在网上长大的,结识了一些终生的朋友。我珍视网络上能够建立的国际社区的真实潜力,真的没有什么能与之相比。 最近我对人工智能感到非常苦恼。我对它渗透到生活的方方面面感到愤怒。不仅仅是我的工作和爱好,它似乎还在许多在线社区(包括这个社区)中悄然蔓延。 我一直在思考,我们如何才能重新建立曾经在线上拥有的信任。是的,机器人问题由来已久,但这远远超出了垃圾信息的范畴。大型语言模型(LLMs)已经在大规模上破坏了网络公共空间,可能再也无法回头。老实说,这让我感到非常苦涩。 然而,这并不意味着我们不能找到一种新的方式,某种程度上能够抵御大型语言模型的影响。我不确定这具体会是什么样子,但我很想知道其他人有什么想法。 我的愿望清单包括以下几点: * 能够抵御大型语言模型“渗透”,用一个更好的词来形容。我们应该能够相对自信地认为对方是真实的人类。 * 不需要放弃所有的匿名性。可能需要某种身份认证,但用户之间的互动至少应该是可以伪匿名的。 * 理想情况下,也能抵御大型语言模型的抓取。我个人觉得现在公开分享工作,让大型语言模型获取这些内容的想法令人沮丧。 我知道这要求很高,可能不太现实。不过,我很好奇HN对此可能性的看法。 编辑:这部分灵感来自于最近在这里讨论的版主帖子:https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47340079 我尊重HN的版主团队愿意将此留给荣誉体系,但我认为在未来,我们需要一些严肃的想法来严格防止这种不良行为,而不仅仅是希望人们能友好相处。
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I basically grew up online and I have some lifelong friends I met online. I cherish the real potential for international community that can be built on the web, there really is nothing like it<p>I have been finding myself feeling very bitter about AI lately. I&#x27;m angry about how it&#x27;s seeping into every aspect of life. Not just my work and my hobbies but it also seems to be creeping into many online communities (including this one!)<p>I have been thinking a lot about how we could possibly build any of the trust that we used to have online. Yes, bots have been a problem for a long time but this is so much further beyond spam posting. LLMs have poisoned the commons online At Scale and there&#x27;s likely no going back. It has made me very bitter, I won&#x27;t lie.<p>However that doesn&#x27;t mean we can&#x27;t find a way forward with something new that is somehow resistant to LLMs. I&#x27;m not sure what exactly that might look like but I&#x27;m curious what ideas others have had.<p>My wish list would be something that<p>* Is resistant to LLM &quot;infiltration&quot; for lack of a better word. We should be able to be relatively confident that people on the other end are real humans<p>* Does not require giving up all anonymity. It will likely require some identity authority but interactions between users should&#x2F;could be pseudonymous at least<p>* Ideally is also resistant to LLM scraping. I personally find the thought of sharing work publicly now so LLMs can ingest it is demoralizing<p>I know it&#x27;s a big ask and maybe not realistic. I&#x27;m curious what HN thinks about this possibility though<p>Edit: This was partially inspired by the recent mod post discussed here: https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=47340079<p>I respect that HN&#x27;s mod team is willing to sort of leave this up to the honor system, but I think in the future we are going to need some serious ideas to strictly prevent this unwanted behavior, not just hope people will play nice