启动 HN:Voygr(YC W26)——为代理和人工智能应用提供更好的地图 API

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嗨,HN,我们是来自VOYGR的Yarik和Vlad(<a href="https://voygr.tech">https://voygr.tech</a>),致力于为应用开发者和代理商提供更好的现实世界地点智能。这里有一个演示:<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNIpcWIE0n4" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNIpcWIE0n4</a>。 谷歌地图可以告诉你某家餐厅的评分是“4.2星,营业到10点”。但他们的API无法告诉你厨师上个月离职、等待时间翻倍以及当地人已经转移的情况。如今的地图API仅提供固定的快照。我们正在构建一个无限、可查询的地点档案,结合准确的地点数据和最新的网络信息,如新闻、文章和事件。 Vlad曾参与谷歌地图API的开发,并在共享出行和旅游领域工作。Yarik在苹果、谷歌和Meta负责机器学习/搜索基础设施,推动数亿用户每天使用的产品。我们意识到,没有人将地点数据的新鲜度视为基础设施,因此我们正在构建它。 我们从最困难的部分开始——确认一个地点是否真实。我们的商业验证API(<a href="https://github.com/voygr-tech/dev-tools" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/voygr-tech/dev-tools</a>)可以告诉你一个商家是否实际运营、关闭、重新品牌或无效。我们聚合多个数据源,检测冲突信号,并返回结构化的判断。可以把它想象成物理世界的持续集成。 问题是:约40%的谷歌搜索和高达20%的大型语言模型(LLM)提示涉及本地上下文。每年有25-30%的地点会发生变化。世界并不会主动发出结构化的“我关闭了”的事件——你必须主动去检测。随着代理商开始在现实世界中搜索、预订和购物,这个问题变得更大——而且没有人正在为此构建基础设施。我们最近对大型语言模型处理本地地点查询的能力进行了基准测试(<a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47366423">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47366423</a>)——结果不佳:即使是最好的模型也会在12个本地查询中出错1次。 我们每天为企业客户处理数万个地点,包括领先的地图和科技公司。今天,我们向开发者社区开放API访问。请在这里查看详细信息:<a href="https://github.com/voygr-tech/dev-tools" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/voygr-tech/dev-tools</a>。 我们非常希望得到诚实的反馈——无论是关于问题、我们的解决方案,还是你认为我们哪里做错了。如果你在自己的产品中遇到过过时的地点数据,我们尤其希望听到你的意见。我们全天在线,欢迎提问。
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Hi HN, we’re Yarik and Vlad from VOYGR (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;voygr.tech&#x2F;">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;voygr.tech&#x2F;</a>), working on better real-world place intelligence for app developers and agents. Here’s a demo: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=cNIpcWIE0n4" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=cNIpcWIE0n4</a>.<p>Google Maps can tell you a restaurant is &quot;4.2 stars, open till 10.&quot; Their API can&#x27;t tell you the chef left last month, wait times doubled, and locals moved on. Maps APIs today just give you a fixed snapshot. We&#x27;re building an infinite, queryable place profile that combines accurate place data with fresh web context like news, articles, and events.<p>Vlad worked on the Google Maps APIs as well as in ridesharing and travel. Yarik led ML&#x2F;Search infrastructure at Apple, Google, and Meta powering products used by hundreds of millions of users daily. We realized nobody was treating place data freshness as infrastructure, so we&#x27;re building it.<p>We started with one of the hardest parts - knowing whether a place is even real. Our Business Validation API (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;voygr-tech&#x2F;dev-tools" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;voygr-tech&#x2F;dev-tools</a>) tells you whether a business is actually operating, closed, rebranded, or invalid. We aggregate multiple data sources, detect conflicting signals, and return a structured verdict. Think of it as continuous integration, but for the physical world.<p>The problem: ~40% of Google searches and up to 20% of LLM prompts involve local context. 25-30% of places churn every year. The world doesn&#x27;t emit structured &quot;I closed&quot; events - you have to actively detect it. As agents start searching, booking, and shopping in the real world, this problem gets 10x bigger - and nobody&#x27;s building the infrastructure for it. We recently benchmarked how well LLMs handle local place queries (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=47366423">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=47366423</a>) - the results were bad: even the best gets 1 in 12 local queries wrong<p>We&#x27;re processing tens of thousands of places per day for enterprise customers, including leading mapping and tech companies. Today we&#x27;re opening API access to the developer community. Please find details here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;voygr-tech&#x2F;dev-tools" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;voygr-tech&#x2F;dev-tools</a><p>We&#x27;d love honest feedback - whether it&#x27;s about the problem, our approach, or where you think we&#x27;re wrong. If you&#x27;re dealing with stale place data in your own products, we&#x27;d especially love to hear what breaks. We&#x27;re here all day, AMA.