较新的 macOS 在 Intel 设备上运行得更慢(这是不争的事实)——是故意为之还是“意外”?

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首先,如果你有“换个PC”或“试试Linux”的冲动,请不要这样做。这是关于苹果/ Mac / macOS硬件的讨论,建议使用Linux或其他系统并没有帮助。 我有一台MacBook Pro,32GB内存,超快的NVMe硬盘。没有理由升级硬件。 我已经按照升级路径更新到最新版本(Tahoe),他们宣布这是最后一个版本。 但它在某些操作上变得极其缓慢和痛苦。尤其是屏幕共享时,性能下降得非常严重。 我尝试了各种方法,从操作系统设置到其他尝试——除了重新涂抹CPU的导热膏。我甚至在一代之前的机器上安装了Fedora(第一代触控条,没有安全芯片)。Fedora运行得非常快。(我甚至从Tahoe重新安装了系统,但没有任何区别)。 不可否认的是:苹果让新版本的macOS在Intel上运行得更慢。 我降级了两个版本到Sonoma。现在的运行状态又回到了可以接受的水平。 我非常确信苹果会有各种合理的借口来解释“我们并不是故意降低性能”,但无论是有意还是“哎呀,发生了那件小事?”都无所谓。 提供一些背景信息:在升级之前,我的Mac平均温度约为74°C。如果我启动Zoom,温度会飙升到100°C,然后开始降频,导致一切变得无法使用。但这不仅仅是Zoom,其他一些应用(特别是那些在Node.js生态中的应用)随着时间的推移也会变得非常缓慢。 现在我在Sonoma上,令人沮丧的是这种情况是多么明显。我在Zoom中开始屏幕共享,温度稍微上升,然后又降得比开始时还低。为什么?没有头绪。这完全是偶然的,但关键是温度没有上升。 我想要什么?也许苹果只需要停止推动人们使用一个被削弱的操作系统,以便他们会觉得需要购买新硬件。 我也很想知道其他人对整个情况的看法,或者你们自己的经历。 说完我的观点。 (背景:MacBook Pro 16,2019年,32GB内存,AMD显卡)。再说一次:我尝试了各种设置更改,从启用GPU到禁用等。问题的核心是窗口系统运行得非常缓慢。 简而言之:如果你在Intel上,停在Sonoma,不要再往上升级。
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FIRST: if you feel the urge to say &quot;get a PC&quot; or &quot;try linux&quot; please don&#x27;t. This is about apple&#x2F;mac&#x2F;macos hardware. suggestions to linux or other things isn&#x27;t helpful.<p>I have a macbook pro, 32G ram, lightning fast nvme drive. There is NO REASON to upgrade the hardware.<p>I&#x27;ve followed the upgrade path to their latest (Tahoe) and they announced this is the last.<p>But it has become UNBEARABLY slow and painful for some operations. Most notably screen sharing drives it into the ground.<p>I&#x27;ve tried all sorts of things from os settings to whatever--short of redoing the heat paste on the CPU itself. I even installed Fedora on a generation before mine without the security chip (the first gen touch bar). Fedora was &#x2F;lightning&#x2F; fast. (I even re-installed fresh from Tahoe, no difference).<p>It is undeniable: Apple has made the newer MacOS run slower on Intel.<p>I downgraded two steps to Sonoma. And it&#x27;s back to running in a bearable manner.<p>I&#x27;m absolutely confident Apple will have all sorts of plausible deniability around &quot;we didn&#x27;t nerf it on purpose&quot; but whether it was with intent or &quot;oooops did that little thing happen?&quot; doesn&#x27;t matter.<p>Just for context: prior to upgrading my mac would average around 74°c. If I started zoom it would spike up to 100°c and then start throttling, making everything unusable. But it wasn&#x27;t just zoom. Some other apps (especially those in the node world) also would be come dog slow over time.<p>Now that I&#x27;m on Sonoma, and what&#x27;s so frustrating about this situation, is how blatant it is. I started a screenshare in zoom, there was a small spike to the temperature, then it trended DOWN even lower than when I started. Why? No idea. This is entirely circumstantial, but the real key here is that it didn&#x27;t go UP.<p>What do I want? Maybe Apple just needs to stop trying to push people to an OS that is nerfed so they&#x27;ll feel like buying new hardware.<p>And I&#x27;m curious what others think about the whole situation, or your own experiences.<p>Steps off soapbox.<p>(Context: MacBook Pro16, 2019, 32G ram, AMD gpu). And again: i&#x27;ve tried all sorts of setting changes from enabling gpu&#x2F;disabling&#x2F;etc. The heart of it is the windowing system runs everything dog slow.<p>TL;DR: if on intel stop at Sonoma, do not go past that.