Reddit:互联网的死心脏

1 分•作者: DenisDolya•大约 1 个月前•原帖
我已经尝试融入这个社区很长时间,但始终没有成功。以下是我得出的结论: 他们的过滤机制非常糟糕。它们实际上是为了确保只有那些从社区成立之初就存在的用户才能留下来。新手几乎不可能通过审核过滤器;我尝试了很长时间,写了支持性和有帮助的评论,并多次检查重复帖子,但尽管我付出了所有努力,我的账户最终还是被阴影封禁了。 乍一看,似乎很容易合法地洗清自己的名声,但不幸的是,事实并非如此。你可以提交几个月的上诉,却只收到沉默的回应。 Reddit还有一种非常有趣的方式让你陷入恶性循环:“你因规避禁令而被封锁”——这是公司最糟糕的主意之一。让我们想想你可以做些什么来合法地解除这个封锁。答案是:上诉。没错,但你可以不断提交几个月的上诉,得到的却只是沉默的回应。更糟糕的是,他们可能会拒绝你的上诉——而且,像他们喜欢做的那样,拒绝时不会给出任何理由。那么你该怎么办呢?无能为力。 因为现在你在他们的监视名单上,一旦你尝试用新账户登录——即使是经过2到3天——他们就会意识到又是你,这就是结局:你会因规避禁令而被封禁;如果你尝试使用VPN,你还会因为使用VPN而被单独封禁——这真是一个恶性循环。即使在现实生活中,一些犯罪行为也不会导致终身监禁,但Reddit却准备毫不犹豫地对新账户上的任何不当帖子施以这样的惩罚。你别无选择,只能把手机扔进垃圾桶,买一个新设备,让Reddit无法识别你。 现在说说HN——它确实是互联网中最后一个在过去10年中没有经历重大变化的生存空间,我对此非常感激。尽管社区只有少数主要的版主和一些高信誉的用户可以“标记”帖子,但他们在控制负面内容方面做得非常出色。我仍然对Hacker News在没有复杂过滤器的情况下,依然几乎完全没有垃圾邮件、广告和其他不愉快话题感到惊讶。 我真的很高兴能使用HN。这里没有付费墙:没有皮肤,没有虚高的浏览量;没有严格的信誉限制(当然有一些限制,但与Reddit相比,HN的限制几乎不存在)。虽然并不总会有人对你的主题或问题感兴趣,但在我看到Reddit社区的经历后,我只能说一句——谢谢你,HN,感谢你的存在;请保持这样的状态。
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I’ve been trying to fit into this community for a long time, but to no avail. And here’s the conclusion I’ve drawn from this:<p>Their filters are terrible. They’re literally set up to ensure that only those users who’ve been around since the community’s inception remain. It’s nearly impossible for a newcomer to get past the moderation filters; I tried for a long time, writing supportive and helpful comments and checking countless times for duplicate posts, but despite all my efforts, my accounts ended up shadowbanned.<p>At first glance, it might seem like it’s easy to legally clear your name, but unfortunately, that’s not the case. You can submit appeals for months and receive nothing but silence in response.<p>Reddit also has a very interesting way of trapping you in a vicious cycle: &quot;You’ve been blocked for evading a ban&quot; — this is one of the company’s worst ideas. Let’s think about what you can do to legally get this block lifted. The answer: an appeal. Yes, but you can keep filing it for months and get nothing but silence in response. What’s more, they might deny your appeal — and, as they love to do, without giving any reason for the denial. So what can you do then? Nothing. Because now you’re on their watchlist, and as soon as you try to log in with a new account—even after 2–3 days — they’ll realize it’s you again, and that’s it: you’ll get banned for circumventing the ban; and if you try using a VPN, you’ll get a separate ban just for using one — it’s a vicious cycle. Even in real life, some criminal offenses don’t result in a life sentence, but Reddit is ready to do just that without a second thought for even a single inappropriate post on a new account. And you’ll have no choice but to throw your phone in the trash and buy a new device where Reddit won’t recognize you.<p>Now, about HN — it really is the last living space on the internet that hasn’t undergone major changes over the past 10 years, and I’m very grateful to them for that. Even though the community has only a few main moderators and people with high karma who can &quot;flag&quot; posts, they do an excellent job of keeping negative content in check. I’m still amazed at how, without complex filters, Hacker News still manages to have an almost complete absence of spam, ads, and other unpleasant topics.<p>I’m really glad I can use HN. There are no paywalls here: no skins, no inflated view counts; no strict karma restrictions (there are limits, of course, but compared to Reddit, the restrictions on HN are practically nonexistent). Although there won’t always be people interested in your topic or question, after what I’ve seen on the Reddit community, I can say only one thing — thank you, HN, for existing; please stay this way.