问HN:谷歌是否终结了其企业工作马模式?

2作者: waldrews大约 1 小时前原帖
有没有其他人对Gemini 2.5模型(Pro、Flash)在十月停用感到恐慌,尤其是在没有任何Pro级模型普遍可用(还有地理限制等)的情况下?谷歌希望每个人都迁移到3.x Flash版本,这在基准任务上超越了旧的Pro模型,但在处理复杂推理任务时,比如对非常大文档的复杂推理(这是我主要的使用场景),却并不相同。 Gemini系列在文档理解方面有着独特的优势,能够处理千页的输入文档,仅需300k个tokens。在OpenAI或Anthropic的世界里,没有类似的产品,即使价格调整后超过10倍。我们是否应该在这个时候放弃谷歌,绕过竞争对手的限制,承担相关成本?这是谷歌团队完全不必要的自摆乌龙。
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Is anyone else in a panic over the Gemini 2.5 model generation (Pro, Flash) being sunset in October before there&#x27;s even any Pro class model in general availability (with geo restrictions etc.)? Google wants everyone to migrate to 3.x Flash, which beats the older Pro models on the benchmarked tasks, but isn&#x27;t the same thing as the Pro class on reasoning-heavy tasks like complex reasoning on very large documents (my big use case).<p>The Gemini family had a distinct niche in document comprehension, with thousand page input documents taking only 300k tokens. Nothing quite like that in OpenAI or Anthropic world, even at more than 10x the token adjusted price. Should we just give up on Google at this point and engineer around the competitors&#x27; limits and eat the costs? Totally unnecessary own goal by team Google.